Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Carter Zupancich. Chris and Carter explore the evolving landscape of social engineering threats, focusing on the rise of vishing attacks and the role of AI in enhancing these tactics. Their discussion underscores the importance of empowering employees as a human firewall and the need for continuous education and testing to strengthen organizational security. [Oct 20, 2025]
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Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Carter Zupancich. Chris and Carter explore the evolving landscape of social engineering threats, focusing on the rise of vishing attacks and the role of AI in enhancing these tactics. Their discussion underscores the importance of empowering employees as a human firewall and the need for continuous education and testing to strengthen organizational security. [Oct 20, 2025]
00:00 – Intro
00:31 – Carter Zupancich Intro
- Website: https://carterzupancich.com/
01:30 – Intro Links:
- Social-Engineer.com– http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Managed Voice Phishing– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
- Managed Email Phishing– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
- Adversarial Simulations– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK– https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH– http://www.pro-rock.com/
- org– http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
03:35 – Tools, Tactics and Procedures
05:19 – Tech Advances
08:16 – The Classics
10:01 – The Need for Testing
12:16 – Callback Phishing
17:26 – Setting Expectations
21:56 – Approved Language
23:56 – Verify!
25:16 – Empowerment
26:17 – And Now a Horrible Story
28:47 – Investing In Employees
31:19 – Wrap Up & Outro









