Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series is hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris is joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty for Ep. 196 as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Jan 30, 2023]

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Ep. 216

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Jan 30, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:28 – Patrick Laverty Intro

00:58 – Intro Links

05:38 – “You never know”

06:51 – Todays Topic: The Role of Empathy in SE

07:02 – Empathy: A Definition

11:09 – 3 Kinds of Empathy

11:23 – Cognitive Empathy

12:21 – Emotional Empathy

13:00 – Empathic Concern

15:52 – The Role of Emotional Distance

16:57 – Learning Empathy

17:49 – What the Studies Show

19:56 – Keeping an Open Mind

21:35 – Letting Your Life Experiences Teach You

23:52 – The Social Media Bubble

25:55 – Expand And Listen

30:13 – Applying Empathy to Social Engineering

31:25 – Being Adversarial

32:45 – Don’t Be the Bad Guy

38:33 – The Importance of “Why”

42:51 – Using Empathy to Make the Best Choice

48:07 – Using Empathy to Make the Hard Choice

49:55 – Practice Makes (Not Quite) Perfect

51:17 – Coming Up Next Month

52:08 – Wrap Up & Outro

 

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