Ep. 204 - The SE ETC Series - FUD or Empathy - What Makes Better Security with David Sherry

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [March 27, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:18 – Patrick Laverty Intro

01:01 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com– http://www.social-engineer.com/
• Managed Voice Phishing– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
• Managed Email Phishing– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
• Adversarial Simulations– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK– https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
• CLUTCH– http://www.pro-rock.com/
• org– http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

05:02 – David Sherry Intro

07:25 – Today’s Topic: How to Develop a Culture of Top-Down Security

11:42 – The Weakest Link

14:03 – It’s All About the “Report”

17:37 – Culture is Everything

20:28 – Zero to Sixty!

23:27 – Make it Personal

25:55 – MVP: Most Valuable People

27:33 – Empowerment through Education

37:11 – The Chicken or the Egg?

39:32 – Book Recommendations

• Project Zero Trust – George Finney
• Race After Technology – Ruha Benjamin
• This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends – Nicole Perlroth
• The Indispensables – Patrick K. O’Donnell

43:02 – Find David Sherry Online

• Twitter: com/CISOatPrinceton
• LinkedIn: com/in/davidsherry
• Website: princeton.edu

44:17 – Next Month: The History of VISHING

44:43 – Wrap Up & Outro

• social-engineer.com
• innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

• Chris Hadnagy
  • Twitter: @humanhacker
  • LinkedIn: com/in/christopherhadnagy
• Patrick Laverty
  • Twitter: @plaverty9
  • LinkedIn: com/in/plaverty9