Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Jowan Joseph. Chris and Jowan discuss the importance of effective communication, role adaptation, and the psychological aspects of crisis situations. The discussion emphasizes the need for proactive preparedness and building trust within teams to navigate challenges effectively. [Aug 18, 2025]
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Show Notes

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Jowan Joseph. Chris and Jowan discuss the importance of effective communication, role adaptation, and the psychological aspects of crisis situations. The discussion emphasizes the need for proactive preparedness and building trust within teams to navigate challenges effectively. [Aug 18, 2025]
00:00 – Intro
00:32 – Jowan Joseph Intro
00:44 – New Format
01:24 – Intro Links:
- Social-Engineer.com– http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Managed Voice Phishing– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
- Managed Email Phishing– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
- Adversarial Simulations– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK– https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH– http://www.pro-rock.com/
- org– http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
03:08 – Tabletop…Child’s Play
04:36 – Phase One: Assigning Roles
07:11 – Going Rogue
08:05 – Measuring Tone
09:22 – A Few More Twists
09:57 – Some Heads Are Gonna Roll
10:41 – Communication Breakdown
12:17 – Post Mortem
13:44 – Alignment at Scale
14:57 – Divide and Conquer… Together
17:31 – Proactive Instead of Reactive
20:21 – The Communication Gap
21:22 – Trust Factor
22:15 – Wrap Up & Outro









