Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Shelby Dacko. Chris and Shelby delve into the intricacies of social engineering, focusing on the challenges of pivoting during on-site security assessments. Their discussion highlights the importance of adaptability and teamwork in overcoming unexpected obstacles, emphasizing how diverse communication styles can enhance the effectiveness of security operations. [Dec 15, 2025]
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Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Shelby Dacko. Chris and Shelby delve into the intricacies of social engineering, focusing on the challenges of pivoting during on-site security assessments. Their discussion highlights the importance of adaptability and teamwork in overcoming unexpected obstacles, emphasizing how diverse communication styles can enhance the effectiveness of security operations. [Dec 15, 2025]
00:00 – Intro
00:34 – Shelby Dacko Intro
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelbydacko/
01:18 – Intro Links:
- Social-Engineer.com– http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Offensive Security Vishing Services – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/vishing/
- Offensive Security SMiShing Services – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/
- Offensive Security Phishing Services – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/
- Call Back Phishing – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/call-back-phishing/
- Adversarial Simulation Services – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/adversarial-simulation/
- Social Engineering Risk Assessments – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/social-engineering-risk-assessment/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK– https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH– http://www.pro-rock.com/
- org– http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
03:42 – The Importance of Pivoting
05:42 – DISC
06:59 – A Difference in Planning Styles
10:34 – Strength Through Diversity
12:40 – Over the River…
19:29 – And Through the Woods
20:24 – Being Onsite
21:40 – Pivot! Pivot! Pivot!
24:02 – What if?
25:29 – Stray From the Path
28:25 – Strength In Numbers
29:27 – Playing Into Biases
31:43 – Wrap Up & Outro