Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Rosa Rowles. Together, they explore the nuances of social engineering, focusing on the critical role of pretexting and impersonation in security assessments. Their conversation underscores the significance of preparation and adaptability, highlighting how embodying different personas can enhance the effectiveness of security operations. [Jan 19, 2026]
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Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Rosa Rowles. Together, they explore the nuances of social engineering, focusing on the critical role of pretexting and impersonation in security assessments. Their conversation underscores the significance of preparation and adaptability, highlighting how embodying different personas can enhance the effectiveness of security operations. [Jan 19, 2026]
00:00 – Intro
00:27 – Rosa Rowles Intro
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelbydacko/
00:55 – Intro Links:
- Social-Engineer.com– http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Offensive Security Vishing Services – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/vishing/
- Offensive Security SMiShing Services – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/
- Offensive Security Phishing Services – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/
- Call Back Phishing – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/call-back-phishing/
- Adversarial Simulation Services – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/adversarial-simulation/
- Social Engineering Risk Assessments – https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/social-engineering-risk-assessment/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK– https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH – https://www.clutchmerch.com/
- org– http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
02:54 – Long Time Listener…
05:24 – Pretexting and Impersonation
10:06 – Becoming the Part
12:04 – An Actor Prepares
17:28 – SE for Yourself
23:25 – Saving FASE
25:46 – Principles in Action
28:08 – Wrap Up & Outro









